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- And Now The Senators By Jerry Taylor| 01/31/2012
- LEAVE IT ALONE By Jerry Taylor| 01/29/2012
- Windfall Elimination Tax By Jerry Taylor| 01/28/2012
- Advocacy By Jerry Taylor| 01/27/2012
- Mystery & Secrecy By Jerry Taylor| 01/24/2012
- Act Now - Stop HB 2350 By Jerry Taylor| 01/13/2012
- Another Merger Fight By Jerry Taylor| 01/10/2012
- Is the Merger Proposal Back? By Jerry Taylor| 12/2/2011
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Legal Opinions
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 02/1/2012
- HB 2350
The LEOFF 2 Board spent a whole bunch of the taxpayers' money buying legal opinions from two law firms. They have chosen to keep them secret and have thus crippled the ability of the stakeholders to evaluate the legal issues properly. They claim that everything is legal and that we should trust them. We think things are a lot more complicated than that and we don't trust them. So, here are legal opinions from two Washington law firms -- both have extensive experience with LEOFF law.
Click here for the Phill Talmadge Report.
Click here for the Joe Fischnaller Report.
Click here for the Phill Talmadge Report.
Click here for the Joe Fischnaller Report.
URGENT! Contact Your Legislator
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 01/31/2012
- HB 2350
I cannot emphasize how important it is that you contact your legislatorS by phone, email, letter or even better schedule a meet for coffee. Please point out that HB 2350 and SB 6563 are bad bills and ask that they oppose these bills. See other articles on this site for talking points. PLEASE ACT NOW!
Recent Articles
Fox Letter
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 02/2/2012
- Letters to Legislators
Gary Fox has submitted an excellent letter that he has sent to legislaror. Read it carefully there are some interesting things in it. Click here for a copy.
WE NEED YOUR HELP
- By Ken Crowder
- Published 02/2/2012
- HB 2350
We are now working the Senate bill SB6563 companion to HB2350. We now need everyone to send email,write call whatever to your senator and house members.
Council Firefighters put out an email saying we are threatening legislators and that there is an Atty. General opinion implying support for the bill. Not true.
Also send the message to your email list and ask everyone to contact their Legislator on our behalf. Remember this bill also negatively effects the public budgets as well.
Some important talking points. Use them if you wish but put in your words and send to both your House & Senate legislators. Most important now is the Senate.
We have both the Fischnaller and Talmage legal analysis available if your Legislator wants a copy.
Council Firefighters put out an email saying we are threatening legislators and that there is an Atty. General opinion implying support for the bill. Not true.
Also send the message to your email list and ask everyone to contact their Legislator on our behalf. Remember this bill also negatively effects the public budgets as well.
Some important talking points. Use them if you wish but put in your words and send to both your House & Senate legislators. Most important now is the Senate.
- A legal analysis done by 2 attorneys one being Phil Talmage ex State Supreme Court chief justice points out several legal issues that will have to be litigated if the bills pass.
- Contrary to what the WSCFF has put out the Attorney General's office did not vet this bill and proclaim it legal. The AG stated there could be no analysis absent an actual bill to look at and there was none at the time. See State Actuary web site merger study for the letter.
- Ice Miller,tax attorney firm also points out that no legal analysis was done and only tax issues were reviewed. See Actuary report.
- In the section on Governance section there is no guaranteed equal representation of LEOFF 1 on the new Board.
- Allows a non elected board to determine the employer and state's contribution rate,funding policy and pension benefits with no Legislative oversight.
- Terminate the bills and send all the interested parties to the table in the interim and come up with a bill that works for all and addresses everyone's issues. Don't spend valuable Legislative time and money on a bill that will no doubt be litigated to obtain the same result.
We have both the Fischnaller and Talmage legal analysis available if your Legislator wants a copy.
Ken Crowder
LEOFF 2 Board Special Meeting
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 01/30/2012
- HB 2350
The following paragraph is from the WCFF Legislative Update that was circulated on Saturday, January 28th.
"On Wednesday January 25th the LEOFF Plan 2 Board met. Following presentations from LEOFF Plan 2 board staff, Office of the State Actuary (OSA) staff, and public testimony on the HB 2350, a motion to support HB2350 was made and was not successful. On the following day, a board member that was present for the vote voiced concern that the decision was made without full knowledge of important information and asked for an opportunity to reconsider the motion. A special board meeting has been called for on Monday January 30th at 9:00am".
"On Wednesday January 25th the LEOFF Plan 2 Board met. Following presentations from LEOFF Plan 2 board staff, Office of the State Actuary (OSA) staff, and public testimony on the HB 2350, a motion to support HB2350 was made and was not successful. On the following day, a board member that was present for the vote voiced concern that the decision was made without full knowledge of important information and asked for an opportunity to reconsider the motion. A special board meeting has been called for on Monday January 30th at 9:00am".
So Tell Me, Why Are We Doing This?
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 01/29/2012
- HB 2350
It isn’t often during government hearings that you hear someone actually ask the question, “Why are we doing this, anyway?”
Credit goes to the Freedom Foundation for putting this bit of TVW on their blog.
Click here for the Freedom Foundation Blog.
It’s even rarer when the person testifying concedes he isn’t altogether sure.
Credit goes to the Freedom Foundation for putting this bit of TVW on their blog.
Click here for the Freedom Foundation Blog.
Windfall Elimination Tax
- By Jerry Taylor
- Published 01/28/2012
- Social Security Info
Ted Fehr wrote to Senator Cantwell about the Windfall Elimination Provision. The windfall elimination provision reduces the Social Security benefits of workers who also receive pension benefits from other employment not covered by Social Security, such as the Federal Civil Retirement System. Public employees often have salaries that are lower than those in the private sector, and the windfall reduction makes it more difficult to recruit employees into these positions.
Also please see our article from 2009. The letters are pretty much the same. Just updated a bit
Also please see our article from 2009. The letters are pretty much the same. Just updated a bit

